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This notion of impeachment expungement is so laughable that it’s easy to chuckle and guffaw past what’s so serious about it. The biggest threat to our democracy, in my view, is the fact that we no longer agree on even the most basic facts. If some of us believe it’s raining right now and others believe it’s a sunny day, how can we possibly come to the right decision on whether to invest in umbrellas or sunscreen?
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For the record, expunging a presidential impeachment is not a thing. It has never been attempted because it makes no sense. Both of Trump’s House impeachments led to trials in the Senate, as the Constitution instructs. Is the Senate supposed to pretend that those trials, which ended in acquittals, never happened? What about the pages in the Congressional Record that chronicle the impeachment proceedings? Would they be ripped out and destroyed? Sent to Mar-a-Lago for Trump to hoard in one of his cardboard boxes, with his golf shirts and his newspaper clippings?

Trump was impeached in December 2019 for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The key piece of evidence was a record of a phone call Trump had with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which Trump appeared to condition the release of U.S. military aid to Ukraine on an announcement by Ukrainian officials that they were investigating Biden for alleged corruption.

Greene’s resolution would expunge that impeachment based on the newly revealed FBI document reporting an informant’s claim of rumored corruption by Biden. Greene’s terse draft does not mention that these allegations were examined by Trump’s own Justice Department and judged not credible enough to investigate.

FBI had reviewed, closed inquiry into Biden claims at center of Hill fight

Trump was impeached again in January 2021 for incitement of insurrection, based on his role in instigating the bloody MAGA attempted putsch at the Capitol earlier that month. Stefanik’s resolution to expunge this second impeachment flirts with, and at times seems to accept, Trump’s “big lie” about the “stolen” election. At one point, for example, Stefanik notes that Trump was the only incumbent president since Grover Cleveland to increase his vote total from his first election yet “seemingly still not [win] reelection.” Those words are not seemingly but actually, and pathetically, craven.

Voters should expunge this useless GOP majority. In 2024, let’s elect a Congress that wants to work, not one that only wants to posture. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/26/trump-impeachment-expunge-greene-stefanik/


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McCarthy wants to expunge Trump's impeachments...
By: clo2
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Mon, 26 Jun 23 11:54 AM
Msg. 07988 of 13860

McCarthy wants to expunge Trump's impeachments...

Seems all house republicans want to do is impeach Biden, Garland, & other cabinets members, & now expunge Trump's impeachments...

They do nothing to help Americans!


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