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Re: How a worker exodus is wrecking the Russian economy – and Putin’s war 

By: Zimbler0 in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (2)
Wed, 05 Jul 23 3:56 AM | 18 view(s)
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Decomposed > I expect you or Zimbler might come back with, "But he's a bully and I hate bullies!"


'Hate Putin' ? I don't think so. But I do not like the fact that Putin seems to think it is 'OK' for him to invade other countries and steal their real estate. (But I also have to wonder . . . "If Putin and Russia had played nice with Ukraine and the other former 'client States' of the USSR . . is it possible Ukraine and the other former Soviet States would have NOT decided joining NATO was their sanest option?")

And, like you, I believe I'd rather see U.S. hang biden a fair amount more than I'd like to see Russians hanging Putin.

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Re: How a worker exodus is wrecking the Russian economy – and Putin’s war
By: Decomposed in 6TH POPE
Tue, 04 Jul 23 6:10 AM 		Msg. 44105 of 58510

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Re: “...putin should go down like Sadaam Hussein.”Some years back, perhaps in 2008 or 2012, I was having a discussion with my aunt and trying to explain why I wouldn't be voting for the Republican presidential candidate. She just couldn't grasp the idea that I hated the candidates from *both* major parties and didn't want to support either. Then I had a brainstorm. "What would you do," I asked, "if your only two choices for President were Stalin and Hitler? Who would you vote for?"

That should do it. That's something she should understand. She'd lived through World War II after all and certainly knew how evil both leaders were.

But, no.

"Stalin," she said instantly. "Hitler killed my brother."

Heh. I didn't see THAT coming!

I tucked my tail between my legs and graciously bowed out of the conversation. There was no point in continuing. For her, the argument wasn't based on rationality but on emotion. It was personal... and I couldn't possibly change her mind.

I think that must be the case with you as well. Putin hasn't done anything to YOU or to anyone you know. In an intellectual discussion, you shouldn't have such strong feelings - but you do. You just want Putin dead. He's a Russian and you hate him.

I expect you or Zimbler might come back with, "But he's a bully and I hate bullies!"

Well... but is he? These days, we can't trust any of our news sources. They're all controlled by the lying, manipulative Left. In fact, recognizing this, I've gotten to the point where if Joe Biden wants something, I want the opposite. That's how irrational *I'VE* become. Except it's actually not irrational. I know that I'm being lied to constantly by my government and my newsrags, lied to about everything that matters. It's about the only thing I really can be sure of. Therefore, if Joe wants something and I'm not in a position to see for myself, it's likely in my interest to oppose him no matter what it is. .

But your logic seems to be rooted in emotion. You just hate Putin. And nevermind that, as with the scenario I posed to my aunt, it's a choice between the Russians and a bunch of Nazis. You're hellbent on defending the Nazis because they aren't the Russians. Personally, I'd rather the Russians beat the crap out of the Ukrainians. They're Nazis, after all - and they're in league with the Biden Crime Family.

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