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Re: Hillary Clinton: 'People who call for ceasefire do not understand Hamas'

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Bill could feel our pain, Hillary not so much.

I still believe she would have been a good POTUS, hands down compared to Trump.

But, I agree, killing innocent people creates hatred, that creates terrorists.

Ja'han Jones response to Hillary.

I can think of hundreds of thousands of people in the Gaza Strip who aren’t members of Hamas and would surely welcome a cease-fire.

So my response to the claim that people who want a cease-fire don’t understand the militant group is that, with all due respect, Clinton doesn’t appear to understand people. Or the resentment they can foster.

Clinton’s underestimation of the fervor of her opponent’s supporters has cost her politically in the past. And I think her remarks here extend from the same flaw: a poor ability to anticipate emotional reactions.

I’ll admit, I’ve grown tired of trying to appeal to people’s sensitivity during times of intense violence. As a millennial who came of age during the Black Lives Matter movement, I’ve been burned too much by complicit people who don’t seem moved by human suffering. These days, I find more success trying to appeal to people’s sanity and their longing for self-preservation, which both tend to be a bit more motivating.

So I’ll forgo the seemingly obvious point: that bombing innocent people is extremely cruel, even when it’s in response to cruel terrorist attacks.

And I’ll opt instead for a slightly less obvious point: that bombing innocent people is extremely ill-advised from a tactical perspective if the ultimate goal is eradicating terrorism. (I recently wrote about why it can be counterproductive here.)

Clinton certainly isn’t alone in her thinking; the Biden White House also opposes a cease-fire. But her viral remarks struck me as the kind of American hubris that many people around the globe — and, in fact, in the U.S. — have come to reject.

When U.S. elites are co-headlining events with infamous Vietnam War architect Henry Kissinger and telling us why bombing must continue in the Middle East, it seems like a sign they’re getting too comfortable with wartime casualties. Like a boomerang, sending cruelty out into the world can come right back.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/hillary-clinton-ceasefire-israel-hamas-war-rcna122871?


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Re: Hillary Clinton: 'People who call for ceasefire do not understand Hamas'
By: zzstar
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Wed, 01 Nov 23 2:10 PM
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Israel does not have any right to bomb civilians indiscriminately, even if Hamas is hiding among them!

Israel should go in to Gaza with its troops and fight it out with Hamas mano a mano, instead of killing babies with bombs from the sky. If they want to fight Hamas, fight Hamas, not this cowardly bombing from above.

As for the ceasefire, I agree there should not be one, because nothing will change as Hamas will rebuild and also prevent civilians from leaving the area. But, Hillary expressed no empathy for the plight of innocents in Gaza. She again provided evidence of how her inability to appreciate whom she is talking about affects her own image, which is why she lost in 2016 by turning people off. An aloof bullshitter at times........

But, America cannot condone these killings of civilians in this manner of barbarism. Two wrongs do not make a right.

If Israel wants to get rid of Hamas, which I think is a good idea, they should do it like MEN! Fight! Put your mouth where your guns are. Israel is CREATING more antisemitism than was there before with these indiscriminate bombings. There is no high ground there. As for Hamas, it is ISIS and we can't go by what they do and reciprocate, we just have to eliminate them, but not by killing thousands of innocents. The young ones who survive will never forget Israelis bombed their families to death ad nauseam!

A TWO THOUSAND POUND BOMB ON A REFUGEE CAMP TO KILL ONE GUY? WTF?

America has lost its mind with all this bullshit with both sides trying to claim the high ground.


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