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Professor

I agree with about 99 percent of what you have written eloquently as is your normal manner.
I am not willing at this point to split hairs over something that we will find out when it is our appointed time to be promoted to HIS Kingdom. That time is different for everyone as you already know.

I am told in about 5 years I will be going home to spend eternity with our Creator and Lord. But the docs cannot be precise or exact so the appointed time will be what HE decides and not the doctors here on planet earth.

MAY I SAY or add one more thing to the process of repentence unto salvation I have taught and preached many times in my life? CONVICTION always comes first, and after one is convicted (convinced) of their guilt and sin against a Holy GOD, then their heart is right for repentence to occur, confession of their sin to God, forgiveness to be granted by HIM, and a spiritual and supernatural transformation of a living soul to be cleansed , forgiven and transformed into a child of the KING. Their name is written down in The Lamb's Book of Life. It is already recorded in The Book of Life upon their birth.

It is amazing to me and never gets old reading the descriptions we have Heaven in scripture. I have many family members already there including two brothers in Law, BOTH Vietnam Vets as well. 101st Airborne.

I agree 100 percent about Repentence being a WORK of God the Holy Spirit. It is the Spirit that CONVICTS and leads us unto repentence. And salvations IS ALL OF GOD and NONE of MAN. It is specifically of the Lord Jesus Christ.. WHo loved us and GAVE HIMSELF for us, and shed HIS BLOOD for our sins ("for without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin").

DO You know WHY Christ had to taste death for every man UPON a Roman Cross? WHY a cross? They could have just executed him . BUT as we know, GOD was in control and in charge of this.

The Scriptures state that 'Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree". HE became the scapegoat of scripture for all mankind forever.. Substitutionary death is what a scapegoat represents.

I would enjoy being with you in person Professor. We have a lot in common and it is rare to be able to talk with someone on a higher level.

I appreciate YOUR takes and insights professor.

Glad you shared them! Very Happy Thumbs Up


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Re: A Blessed Easter Everyone !
By: monkeytrots
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Sun, 31 Mar 24 11:40 PM
Msg. 51811 of 58566

Micro, know very well the theological position of the Southern Baptist Church, ie. Dallas Theological. Your position has always been clear. Fortunately, for both of us, our exact views really don't determine our salvation. The saving Faith of Christ is what God, in His grace, accepts as the perfect sacrifice.

My next door neighbour, now deceased as a young man, had many a heated discussion on these and other matters. Especially divergent on the issue of repentance.

Have you ever seen sheep being herded ? There are many youtube videos of border collies herding sheep. They are always amazing.

The parable about the shepherd herding the sheep (in Mathew I believe), follows the parable about the widow and the lost coin. My neighbor, Dustin & I specifically discussed that parable. His position was that it was ridiculous to assert that a shepherd would actually 'carry a sheep back'. (Again, he was Southern Baptist, Dallas Theological)

What follows that parable, we are told that the angels in heaven rejoice over one sinner that repents.

Seems to support the position that DTS takes, right. WE repent, then are forgiven, and the angels rejoice over what we have done. Few pastors ever get it correct - what the SINNER has done is NOT what the Angels are rejoicing over. The Greek is a little tricky on that one. What the angels are rejoicing over is over what God has done. The sheep never return of their own volition. They are carried back (repented) by the Good Shepherd, Jesus Christ.

In other words, repentance is NOT something that we can 'do' - it is completely and totally a work of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.

The psalms have a much deeper meaning when they proclaim repeatedly 'ALL GLORY, LAUD, and HONOR' be to thee oh Lord our King.

There is absolutely NOTHING that I can do that is EVER 'good' in the eyes of God. To claim otherwise, is to take a little bit of the credit for myself. I can't. I quite literally take the ALL part to mean exactly what it says.

There is only one Pastor I have ever heard that got that particular scripture (the angels rejoicing) correct - Pastor Baker of the Missouri Synod who can be found at http://www.kfuo.org .

The same 'all credit' stance goes for the FAITH that God has given to me - to say otherwise is to improperly take credit that I do not deserve.

Also note, to be declared Righteous in the Site of God IS to be declared perfect, to be without any sin.

As Luther stated, we have the fortune of 'felicitous inconsistency' when it comes to our understanding being determinant.


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