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Re: How Much Emergency Cash Should You Keep at Home?

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Thanks De!

A few things have been thought out already such as size and access to vitals like water. There are natural aquifers in the ground here in southern Ohio because of all the limestone. We have rivers flowing underground.

So A well (pipe) would be bored for access to fresh water.
We already have a fairly decent sized generator so we can have electric on a limited basis. A fireplace is on the drawing and a fire burning black iron stove that can use either coal or wood.

The land is wooded so its not too conspicuous. My son in law is a licensed FFL dealer who has a small armory along with his son who is graduating college this year. Both are excellent marksmen. 200 yards with scopes on ARs using .223 ammo.

Also have shotguns , handguns, and hunting rifles in addition. Plenty of ammo. We have been buying food all along that will supply us a long time. Miz micro can cook. LOL!!!

Hope we don't have to use it.
I don't have that many more years left so I don;t really know if I will ever have to use it but in case it does happen after I am gone, I know my son in law and daughter will take care of my precious wife.

SO, that's our situation here. Maybe we can see a Bigfoot or even you guys with all that forest there.

That would be cool.. Thumbs Up


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Re: How Much Emergency Cash Should You Keep at Home?
By: De_Composed
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Tue, 14 May 24 10:33 AM
Msg. 53158 of 58625

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Re: “My son in law and I are talking a little about a bugout piece of land a couple counties (rural) to the east and were thinking of building a small cabin there for a bugout place should AHBL.”
I'm glad to hear it. I've gotten used to being thought of as "way out there" by most people, and even embrace it to some degree. But when I hear what I think of as mainstream people (you and, I assume, your son-in-law) thinking the way I do, it validates my choices.

IMO, the idea of a "bugout location" is deeply flawed for the worst types of crises that could realistically occur. It ignores the fact that you won't know your community at the new location. More importantly, your community won't know YOU. In TEOTWAWKI, it may treat you and your family as the outsiders to be wary of. If things get really bad, you want just the opposite: A community that knows you, trusts you and possibly helps you.

A stockpile of "essentials" you keep at your bugout cabin will be at the mercy of the locals until you arrive. Believe me - they will know that your place is empty. If they don't know you, why shouldn't they raid your cabin for the things they lack?

Also, it takes a long time to build up a bugout location. Will you need to deal with bugs? Animals? Extended power outages? Staying warm? Sources of protein? If you plan on hunting to get meat, consider that everyone else will be thinking the same thing. Assuming your location isn't adjacent to the DEEP woods, animals in the area will soon vanish, either because they flee or because they die. Have you ever eaten a groundhog? You'd better find some good recipes because it's definitely an acquired taste!

How about medicines? Have you stockpiled any? Whether you have a bugout cabin or not, you'd better give this some thought. I asked my doctor for a second prescription on my blood thinner, simply so I could prepare for a crisis. It's the only medicine my life depends on. Now, if it becomes hard to get, I'll be okay for a year. The truth is, I wish I had more than a year's worth.

A woman I met a few weeks ago lives in a house that's fairly rural. After I shoveled horse manure, I asked her if I could wash off my hands and shovel. She said no. External watering is not permitted because the community didn't plan for all the new houses being built. Everyone is on municipal water and there isn't enough! So... that's something you might want to think about.

A garden, which you'll certainly want, takes significant time, particularly in the first year. You need to build up your soil, learn and document what works, deal with problems, learn to preserve what you grow, maybe put up fences, etc. If you're growing from seed, what types? Do you have grow lights and space so they'll be ready to transplant when spring comes? You aren't going to "bug out" and start living off the land overnight. Maybe not even that year. And what if you have to go to the cabin in January?

I planted plum trees a few weeks ago and think they'll play a vital role in my long term survival... *if* they thrive and I'm able to last the 4-6 years until they start producing. But, right now, they need a deep watering at least once each week. If I'm not here, they won't live.

IMO, a bugout location is impractical unless it's actually a bugout HOME. Otherwise, it's apt to be more of a campsite than a long-term survival shelter.

Don't get me wrong: What you and your son-in-law are considering sounds great for any short-term problem. If a disaster happens but the nation's infrastructure is intact, a cabin in the woods will allow you to get away and live off of your credit card until things improve. Meanwhile, if it's a NICE cabin... say, alongside a stream or pond... you'll have a vacation house you and your family can enjoy for years. That's essentially what my other house was.

Keep thinking. And don't wait too long before making a decision. Ask yourself what it is that you're trying to guard against. Bugout locations have some things in common regardless of the crisis. They all give you an alternative place to be. But preparing for another pandemic is quite different from preparing for a war. Rioting is completely different from a power grid failure. And none of these have much in common with an economic collapse. There's only so much you can hope to accomplish with a small cabin.

BTW, if you decide to do this, I've got some good advice and lessons to share. When the time is right, maybe a new AB forum would be appropriate.















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