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Re: “DE, is it really the Adam and Eve story that 'bugs you the most' - or is it the very first sentence in the Bible ?”
The Adam and Eve tale doesn't bug me most. Nothing bugs me most. I'm not a one-trick pony so easily classified. If you check my post, you'll find that the word "most" is not in it. I'll just say that the Adam and Eve parable DOES bug me. Whether or not the snake lied about the fruit rendering Adam and Eve god-like, it deserves principle credit for getting mankind out of Eden. Without its help, A&E would never have escaped a boring, pet-like, sedated, ignorant and very limited existence. So it was a good thing even if the snake lied and said they would be God-like. Humans, un-God-like as they are, are still better than children. You obviously have a very different take - which I appreciate and encourage you to explain. But I think an eternity in Eden (Did Adam and Eve age while there? I don't think the Bible says, though their agelessness is implied.) would have sucked. It would have been the worst kind of life sentence. What goes through my mind is... what was God thinking by doing that to his children?

In any case, I take it with a grain of salt. The Bible, particularly the Old Testament, is full of parables. They teach lessons, some literal and some allegorical.

Your question about the Bible's first sentence is off-topic but, to answer, I'm not bothered by it. The universe is here. That's self evident. Nobody intelligent would argue otherwise. Looking at it now, I do wonder about the word "beginning." Ask micro to explain the difference between "eternal" and "everlasting" to understand why the concept of a "beginning" is flawed.






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Truth .... or Consequences
By: monkeytrots
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Sun, 02 Jun 24 4:33 AM
Msg. 53766 of 60008

The first three chapters in Genesis.

The first sentence: In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth.

In the third chapter of Genesis:

"For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Many incorrectly take this to mean that God did not want man to have knowledge. That is not true. Reread that verse again.

Two points: You will be like God. That was a lie.
Second point: The 'knowledge' of knowing good and evil. Another lie.

When MAN decides that a man knows (or can decide which is a more accurate portrayal/translation of 'knowing') what is good and evil.

How is that working out for mankind today ? Men/governments are deciding that is good to kill certain people (river to the sea, Cambodia, Russian revolution, Mao and his 'cultural revolution') killing the elderly to put them out of their misery, or reduce their 'burden on society', the entire 'woke' culture, taking from people by force to 'give to others', and so on. Let's not forget the huge percentage of people that believe in 'moral relativism'. When man decides that he/she/it/the government are the arbiters of what is 'good' and what is 'evil' - it doesn't go so well .... not at all. QED

That is what happens when MAN decides to be 'like God' or in ANY way believes that the man has knowledge equivalent to that of God, or better than God.

That is just one of the reasons why the FIRST COMMANDMENT is:

THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE (but) ME.

DE, is it really the Adam and Eve story that 'bugs you the most' - or is it the very first sentence in the Bible ?

As a bona-fide scientist myself, I am fully aware of the limitations of my knowledge. Many scientists are not so aware.

It was NEVER 'knowledge' that GOD prohibited.

Yes, Adam and Eve were indeed like Promethius. They played with fire, and got burned quite badly.

The 'snake' did NOT do mankind any favors.


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