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Re: Truth .... or Consequences 

By: Beldin in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (1)
Sun, 02 Jun 24 8:56 PM | 25 view(s)
Boardmark this board | 6th Edition Pope Board 		Msg. 53784 of 58531
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"The universe is here. That's self evident. Nobody intelligent would argue otherwise."

There is much more to our existence than this universe that can be explored and partially defined with our five senses. To expand one's horizons, it takes faith - faith in the Creator of the universe and the Author of life - God the Father. And given that Adam & Eve first introduced sin into the human existence, it takes Christ the Son to enable us to reconnect with God the Father. I fully realize that faith is too intangible for those who demand to see or touch before acknowledging that something is "real," but I am convinced that mankind is blind to most of the true reality that surrounds us, here, and that such obscured perceptions will be lifted when our souls escape these earthly bodies.

God IS reality - the only reality. The serpent (Satan) helped convince us to severe our connection to reality ... and continues this nefarious effort, every day, with each and every one of us ... but, by the grace of God, Christ magnanimously serves as our only avenue back to reality. 





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Re: Truth .... or Consequences
By: De_Composed in 6TH POPE
Sun, 02 Jun 24 9:26 AM 		Msg. 53768 of 58531

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Re: “DE, is it really the Adam and Eve story that 'bugs you the most' - or is it the very first sentence in the Bible ?”The Adam and Eve tale doesn't bug me most. Nothing bugs me most. I'm not a one-trick pony so easily classified. If you check my post, you'll find that the word "most" is not in it. I'll just say that the Adam and Eve parable DOES bug me. Whether or not the snake lied about the fruit rendering Adam and Eve god-like, it deserves principle credit for getting mankind out of Eden. Without its help, A&E would never have escaped a boring, pet-like, sedated, ignorant and very limited existence. So it was a good thing even if the snake lied and said they would be God-like. Humans, un-God-like as they are, are still better than children. You obviously have a very different take - which I appreciate and encourage you to explain. But I think an eternity in Eden (Did Adam and Eve age while there? I don't think the Bible says, though their agelessness is implied.) would have sucked. It would have been the worst kind of life sentence. What goes through my mind is... what was God thinking by doing that to his children?

In any case, I take it with a grain of salt. The Bible, particularly the Old Testament, is full of parables. They teach lessons, some literal and some allegorical.

Your question about the Bible's first sentence is off-topic but, to answer, I'm not bothered by it. The universe is here. That's self evident. Nobody intelligent would argue otherwise. Looking at it now, I do wonder about the word "beginning." Ask micro to explain the difference between "eternal" and "everlasting" to understand why the concept of a "beginning" is flawed.

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