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Micro > You believe the Israelites and Egyptians, and Assyrians and Persians were only four feet tall ???

Micro > AS for the Cubit, 18 inches is a common length of that specific area you described accurately.. That's where 18 inches comes from..


The 'Cubit'.
How many people had rulers or tape measures back in the time of David and Goliath?

There is a very good reason why the cubit was originally defined as "length of the forearm from the tip of the middle finger to the elbow" . . .

Do I believe Biblical Peoples were a lot shorter? Not particularly. I probably saw numbers similar to what Decomposed posted.

But the point I was trying to make is that trying to claim the biblical cubit was 18" is erroneous.

Another point is who and how was Goliath measured? Did they use a small persons cubit? Or a large persons cubit? Or was Goliath even actually measured?

More likely the 'news report' was written after the fact and the 'reporter' was writing about a 'larger than average Goliath' versus a 'smaller than average shepherd boy with a slingshot' . . . And possibly even inflated the size of Goliath figuring it might make better copy.

Bottom line. You can't prove Goliath was nine feet tall. Unless someone can find human skeletons that tall.

Was there a battle between a 'David and Goliath'? Probably. And possibly even a battle between an oversized muscle bound mental pygmy and a scrawny shepherd boy who's rock was guided by God. A story between a David and Goliath is the sort of thing that 'oral folklore' might pass down through the ages. And, like that flounder fish I once caught while on vacation down in Texas it just keeps getting bigger in the retelling.

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Re: Stephen Hawking once gave a simple answer as to whether there was a God
By: micro
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Wed, 05 Jun 24 4:18 PM
Msg. 53921 of 58526

You believe the Israelites and Egyptians, and Assyrians and Persians were only four feet tall ???

Where did that Myth come from?

Abraham was a Chaldean from UR, which is not pygmy territory. DAVID was a warrior as well as a King. Yes, we learn about initially about him being a shepherd, which is a requirement of that gentle mentality for Pastors who tend to sheep today.

In today's vernacular, "you catch flies with honey"and being kind to others.


AS for the Cubit, 18 inches is a common length of that specific area you described accurately.. That's where 18 inches comes from..

Since there is VARIANCE of that specific areas length on different people, its kinda hard to have ship builders trying to figure out whose elbow to hand measurement are ya gonna use to saw this board to length..

The normal and most common was approximate 18 inches as a rule of thumb.

I do not remember reading anywhere in scripture about most people being only four feet tall.

Have no clue where that came from other than a fairy tale.

Oh well.

This is why if ya want the scientific evidence of things found in scriptures, come visit the Creation Museum..

It would give you a whole new perspective...

PSALMS 12: 6 and 7 says

"The WORDS of the LORD are pure Words, as silver tried in a furnace of earth SEVEN Times.
Thou (GOD) SHALT keep them O Lord, Thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation forever..."

Now all skeptics will say, how did that happen?

Well, that's because they do not know about what the Scribes did. They COPIED exactly the original scriptures every JOT and tittle as it was and they made copies of the copies and copies of the copies.

You see examples of this in the DEAD SEA Scrolls. For generations after generation the SCRIBES copied the scrolls and every word and last Jot and Tittle.

It was wonderful when the ability to set type came and the scriptures could be set on the printed page exactly as it was found in the scrolls.

Luther rebelled against the Catholic Church because that Church was keeping the Word of God OUT of people's hands so they could try to keep power of the people..

The World owes Martin Luther a huge debt.. HE made the preserved Words available to ALL to read and have..

God hasn't died. And scripture says It is impossible for God to lie. His very nature makes that impossible or else HE would not be PURE AND Holy. Also, HIS NATURE in Scripture makes clear that GOD CANNOT LIE.

He is the creator and author of all we see in existence.

He NAMED every single planet and star in the entire universe.

So how big is your Faith?

That depends on how BIG your God really is inside your soul.

The Bible says
SO then, FAITH comes by HEARING, and Hearing by the WORD of GOD.

Our spirit is listen and take into itself GOD'S Preserved and divine words. By using our eyes as Portals to our souls we are filled by HIS Words. The eyes are entrances into your very self.. Be careful what you gaze upon...

SO, my message is done and I know this is not a Preaching Board.

My sister has been diagnosed with Dementia and she is three years younger. My borther in law Tom is bring her down here to be with us a few days and himself, as he is the Buckeyes field goal kicker under coach Hayes in 1974 and 1975 1976. The Bucks defeated Michigan in Columbus in a driving snowstorm because he kicked a 42 yard field goal into the wind with time running out..

He is a legend in Columbus and we have the GAME BALL signed by the entire team and coaching staff, including Woody Hayes. Its under glass.

I feel very badly for sis. She is 2 years my younger and she does not do well with Tom out of her sight..

My wife and I will try to keep her company while Tom is at a functional reunion with that team locally as a reunion..

My best to you all. Very Happy

micro...


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