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Re: “It was not an accident that this planet is exactly the right distance away from the star which gives off heat and light to this planet so it is not an ice ball like all the other ones farther away nor is it a furnace where ya could get burned alive in a millisecond.”Weeks later, we are learning that Mars too is "exactly the right distance" from the sun to support life!

If we don't first wipe ourselves out, I expect we humans will eventually find an incredible wealth of such planets. It's a big universe. And maybe, someday, somewhere in the vast cosmos, we will find a culture of exotic anaerobic "fish" evolved in an underground ocean, thinking like you -- but about their own fishy world and how God (a Pisces, no doubt) created the universe with exactly the right amount of insulated ceiling to keep them from either freezing or boiling.

Scroll down for an article on this profound discovery.
August 13, 2024

Hidden Ocean Beneath Mars: A Game-Changing Discovery

by nephila
SummaryNews.Whatfinger.com

Jim Green (NASA’s Chief Scientist): “A subsurface ocean on Mars could serve as a vast reservoir of life, protected from the harsh surface conditions. This possibility is an exciting reminder that we still have much to learn about our neighboring planet.” (Jim Green, 2020, reflecting on the potential for subsurface water on Mars)

New insights from a decommissioned NASA mission have unveiled a groundbreaking discovery—an extensive underground water reservoir buried deep within Mars’ surface. This revelation, drawn from a comprehensive study, suggests that Mars might house enough water trapped within its crust to submerge the entire planet under an ocean up to one mile deep.

The crucial data for this study was gathered by NASA’s InSight lander, which operated on Mars from 2018 to 2022. During its mission, InSight employed a seismometer to probe the Martian interior, yielding valuable information that has now led to this remarkable discovery.


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The research indicates that accessing this hidden water would be an immense challenge for future Mars explorers. The water is believed to be entombed between 7 and 12 miles beneath the planet’s surface, a depth that poses significant obstacles for any potential drilling operations. However, the implications of this discovery stretch far beyond the technical difficulties; they provide a new dimension to our understanding of Mars’ geological history and hint at a potential environment where life might exist—if the water could be accessed.

Lead researcher Vashan Wright, an assistant professor and geophysicist at the University of California, San Diego’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography, emphasized the importance of understanding Mars’ water cycle to comprehend the planet’s climate evolution. According to Wright, identifying the location and quantity of Martian water is crucial for unraveling the red planet’s history.

Mars, once a warmer and wetter world, is thought to have harbored vast lakes, river networks, and deltas billions of years ago. However, around 3 billion years ago, the planet lost its atmosphere, effectively ending its wet era. The reasons behind this atmospheric loss remain one of the enduring mysteries of Mars’ history, with numerous missions dedicated to uncovering the fate of the planet’s water and its potential to sustain life.

Previous theories about the fate of Martian water include its transformation into ice, its escape into space, or its absorption into minerals beneath the surface. The recent findings suggest that much of this water percolated deep into the Martian crust, where it has remained trapped for eons.

The InSight mission, which stands for Interior Exploration using Seismic Investigations, Geodesy, and Heat Transport, was a stationary lander tasked with investigating the Martian interior. Although it was immobile, InSight provided unprecedented data on Mars’ crust, mantle, core, and atmosphere. Its seismometer was particularly adept at detecting “marsquakes,” seismic events akin to earthquakes on Earth. Over its mission, InSight recorded more than 1,300 marsquakes, offering scientists a unique window into the planet’s internal structure.

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By analyzing the speed of seismic waves traveling through the Martian crust, researchers were able to infer the presence of substances beneath the surface. The speed of these waves can reveal the composition of the rock, its fractures, and what fills those cracks. Utilizing this data, Wright and his team fed the information into a rock physics model—similar to methods used on Earth to locate oil fields and aquifers.

Their findings indicate that the data best aligns with a deep layer of volcanic rock, saturated with liquid water. Study coauthor Michael Manga, a professor of earth and planetary science at the University of California, Berkeley, suggested that this discovery offers a glimpse into Mars’ past climate and the potential habitability of its deep subsurface.

The study authors propose that if Mars’ crust is similar across the planet, the mid-crust zone might contain even more water than previously hypothesized ancient Martian oceans. This discovery enriches our understanding of Mars’ water cycle and its geological evolution.

While the data cannot confirm the presence of life, the existence of liquid water deep within Mars’ crust presents a tantalizing possibility. On Earth, deep subsurface environments are known to harbor life, raising the question of whether similar conditions might exist on Mars.

However, drilling to such depths on Mars would be a formidable challenge, requiring significant energy and infrastructure. The study also noted the absence of a frozen groundwater layer above the mid-crust, a puzzling observation that researchers are still trying to explain.

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The discovery that liquid water exists beneath Mars’ surface, even as water-saturated sediments, has profound astrobiological implications. Alberto Fairén, planetary scientist and astrobiologist at Cornell University, highlighted the potential for such environments to host life, drawing parallels to Earth’s vast subsurface biosphere.

This finding represents the kind of breakthrough that scientists had hoped for from the InSight mission. It not only enhances our understanding of Mars’ interior but also raises new questions about the planet’s habitability and evolution. Wright and other researchers are eager to see more seismometers deployed on Mars and other celestial bodies to further explore these possibilities. The groundwater we observe today is a relic of Mars’ ancient past, connecting its present state to a wetter, more dynamic world.

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Planetary Scientist Perspective: “The discovery of what might be a liquid water ocean beneath Mars’ icy surface represents one of the most exciting developments in planetary science. It suggests that Mars is not a dead planet but one with the potential to harbor life.”

• NASA Statement: “The evidence for subsurface water on Mars is mounting. If there is a large, liquid water ocean beneath the Martian surface, it would be a game-changer, not only for the possibility of life but also for future human exploration.” (NASA, discussing findings from the Mars Expess spacecraft)

• Alfred McEwen (Planetary Geologist): “If Mars has a subsurface ocean, it opens up the possibility that the planet could have sustained microbial life at some point in its history—or even that it could still do so today.” (Alfred McEwen, University of Arizona)

http://summarynews.whatfinger.com/2024/08/13/hidden-ocean-beneath-mars-a-game-changing-discovery-2/


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Re: Another example of Trump and the RNC blowing it while trying to benefit from the tragedy of others...
By: micro in 6TH POPE
Sat, 20 Jul 24 2:56 PM 		Msg. 55479 of 60008

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You apparently have no understanding of what that tithe is really for..

As I do not want clutter the board with the lengthy list of things that GOD Himself said it would be used for , let's just say that from a Biblical pespective and a direct command from God, your assertion is incorrect. The "Church" which also belongs to GOD does not need nor require your money.. What GOD requires of HIS people is obedience to HIM and HIS Book of directions and instructions for living while we are here on HIS planet.

It was not an accident that this planet is exactly the right distance away from the star which gives off heat and light to this planet so it is not an ice ball like all the other ones farther away nor is it a furnace where ya could get burned alive in a millisecond.

As God the SON pointed out to another unbeliever, all one need to do is look around and behold everything that is here and see all the things here and that even the very rocks would cry out attesting to the one who created it all. What other planets do you know of teaming with all the things on earth? Or people? Or all the varieties of animals? You think it all just happened by happenstance.?

WHY do you think the religions, whatever that is, just want your money?

DID the Priesthood who was one of the tribes of Israel want their money? God required an offering of money and and animal blood offering sacrifice in theh Old Testament time. Christ shed his own blood which is FAR GREATER than all because it was DIVINE Nature as an offering for the sins of the whole world, every man and woman and child for all time. THAT ened the animal sacrifices because the blood of Christ was sufficient for payment and restoration for all our collective total of SIN past, present, and future.

NO sin will ever enter Heaven, nor unclean thing.. God is HOLY and only people who are made HOLY by the BLOOD of the Risen Christ , which HE IMPARTS to them upon their trusting HIM ALONE for their salvation, without exception.

THIS is WHY Christ PAID THE PENALTY for EVERYONE'S SINS for all time and cleanses them from all unrighteousness when they TRUST HIM ALONE of their forgiveness and their salvation.

How many thousands of years do you want to go back in time "to keep it real" ? The people of God began with Abraham and through him all the nations of t he earth would be blessed because of HIS FAITH and trust in GOD.

HE is the only person GOD ever showed Himself to..

GOD owns everything on earth. He doesn't need your or my money.. Tithing is all about FAITH in HIM to supply all your needs ny trusting HIM to do what HE has said so HIS CHURCH has the resources to operate and to minister to the spiritual needs as well as physical needs of HIS people, to the Jews first and ALSO to the "Greeks" (gentiles).

I have heard this bogus and misapplied argument a million times in my life and it is always the same one.
You do err in your assessment and statement due to lack of knowledge only. You are a very smart person is lots of other subjects De but Biblical knowledge and Faith are not among those..

You enjoy readind as do I. Let me recommend if you have any interest to get anything written By Charles Spurgeon or Dwight L Moody and read it..

Those were TWO of the greatest Men of GOD in modern times who became good friends though one was in England and the other in the United States.

They lived in the 1800s and MILLIONS of people followed their teaching and preaching. These are TWO of the most powerful and close to GOD men who changed their countries for Christ.

I hope you use that wonderfully gifted mind of yours to explore the FAITH, without with every one who is not a child of the KING thru The SON, CHRIST, will not see the Kingdom of Heaven..

And yes, Heaven is for real. And people in Heaven can see events on earth and know what is happening.
My own mother appeared to my nephew one evening when his first child was born.. She had a special affection for him as he was the first grandchild of my little brother and she raised him. Him and his wife had both seen her and heard her.

Yes, there "windows" or "portals" in Heaven..
David Limbaugh has written a great book where he was a skeptic about Christ and did research into Christianity and Christ and became a believer and follower of His. Dr. Limbaugh is a great read as well.

Hope this may be a blessing to you for further study and shed light into what the Grace of GOD and HIS CHOSEN MEANS to reach PEOPLE with the GOSPEL (death, burial, resurrection of Christ) of Christ unto Salvation...

NO ONE will enter the Kingdom of GOD unless they have been BORN AGAIN through the Blood of Christ by grace through faith in HIM ALONE.

The CHURCH does not need your money. IF one loves GOD, they will obey HIS written words (all of them) and will give an offering to GOD by faith . HE will see your faith and will not let you go destitute or hungry or anything. He will bless you for your faithfulness and multiply you.

I apologize for the length. We will have much to talk about later........

My kindest and best wishes always, Smile

micro...

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