>>> ...putin is on the ropes and trump / vance want to throw in the towel.
Sire - where has either one of them said that ?
What I have heard is that they will END the conflict.
A well aimed shot at puttie's privates could accomplish that - like A REAL THREAT.
Nuttin' 'bout 'throwin in the towel' or 'negotiating' a peace, unless one considers a baseball bat up the side of the head to be 'peace talks'.
Just askin.