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Re: “Basically we differ on a completely different view of what 'hard times' means. To you, it seems that it is only the collapse of the US monetary/economic system. To me, hard times is the collapse of world economies - where NO currency retains it's 'value', such as would occur with wide ranging nuclear war, wide spread electromagnetic pulses (man made or solar), true global pandemics, and other such 'end of the world as we know it' scenarios.”More or less right. The only one I'm preparing for is the one I'm certain is going to happen.

Fortunately, some of the other scenarios involve the same preparations: Preserving and storing food, having a bugout location (or, in my case, living in it already), having a variety of goods with which to barter, getting to know the neighbors, learning how to live without most of the 'grid.'

Are you under the impression that P.M. is the only thing I'm recommending people acquire? If so, you haven't been on the board long enough. I've got a reputation here as a hoarder because there are so many things people need to have in quantity. I have a two-story barn that's practically bursting at the seams, largely with things I regard as 'essentials' (okay... also with books and 'junk.' My project for the rest of my life involves evaluating and perhaps throwing out much of what I've boxed up.)

Widespread nuclear war, by the way, is one scenario I'm not worrying about at all. Everyone in the world will be dead within a few years of its occurrence, so why worry about it?






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Re: DE, this un's fur you, my friend - not a slam, but just some solid info, imo.
By: monkeytrots
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Wed, 30 Oct 24 5:26 AM
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>>> so long as the owner is bright enough to keep his mouth shut.

The flaw in that reasoning is that the first time you use gold to make a purchase, it becomes known that you do indeed have gold, no matter how tight-lipped you are.

On the devaluation - you are correct, I overstated it.

>>> bartering implies government non-sanctioned transactions

Bartering is basic economics, long preceding ANY monetary systems. Except in the most repressive of regimes, it has never been 'sanctioned or impeded' by governments. I have never heard that implication before, that it needed government sanction. Sounds pretty 'ultra left wing' ta me. *w*

As for farmlands being seized - the huge amount of US farmland was seized several decades ago - and turned over to Corporations. Excessive taxes and inheritance seizures were the primary methods used in that corpo-government takeover. Hiking property taxes is a way that governments have of forcing 'turnovers' to developers. Hell, even the Supreme Court in KELO made it far easier to seize private property because the government decides someone else would 'do a better job' with it - ie. make more money for the government. Point being, that time is already HERE and has been for quite a while.

Basically we differ on a completely different view of what 'hard times' means. To you, it seems that it is only the collapse of the US monetary/economic system. To me, hard times is the collapse of world economies - where NO currency retains it's 'value', such as would occur with wide ranging nuclear war, wide spread electromagnetic pulses (man made or solar), true global pandemics, and other such 'end of the world as we know it' scenarios.


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