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By: zzstar in FFT4 | Recommend this post (2)
Sat, 22 Mar 25 2:50 AM | 16 view(s)
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Yeah, BUT,

We’ve had millions come in over just a few years. Miami is a spanish speaking domain. Everywhere. And there’s a whole culture there separate from “America” for now.

Furthermore, we have LEGAL ways to come into this country, and there are millions waiting IN LINE for years for that chance around the world. What about THEM?

We just can’t have happening what has been happening with masses flooding the border, no matter who they are. We don’t even have a system to absorb so many at once.

Congress sucks, because they can’t come up with a platform of legal immigration and all that can be good about it as it has been historically.

So, no. No masses and havoc at the borders.

There is one episode of 1923 on Paramount, where you can clearly see what really went on at Ellis island, how they turned back and deported single pregnant women because they felt no one would hire them and they’d be on welfare. It’s a tough example but there was a system. We have a jambalaya made up of greed for cheap labor, bleeding hearts for everyone in everywhich way to come here, racism, religious
crap, and everything in between.

It is NOT that simple. Congress allows it to be a shithole. To begin they are stupid, unable to act. That’s where the fraud and abuse lives.

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Civics 101, Immigration...
By: weco in FFT4
Fri, 21 Mar 25 6:56 PM 		Msg. 15327 of 15514


Mass migration is a threat to the culture and identity of most nations. That has long been the history of Europe with the disruptions caused by migrations of the Gauls, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, etc. But this is not true for the United States.

Most cultures/nationalities have a genetic component or foundation because of their tribal origins. If I ask you to picture a Danish, Irish, Pakistani, Japanese, or Mexican person you would almost certainly envision someone with distinctive and characteristic physical traits for each. Furthermore, most cultures evolved insulated from much outside influences because of language and geographical barriers and so each became very differentiated. Not surprising therefore that Japan as one example would have difficulties dealing with a large influx of Danes or Mexicans.

But America is different. Picture an American and that image could resemble anyone from Abe Lincoln to Beyonce to Geronimo. Our culture evolved from many different cultures. America is not disrupted by the influx of people who look different because Americans all look different.

American Exceptionalism is based on what has often been called the American Experiment. This is the revolutionary notion that a nation can succeed based on the general acceptance of a unifying set of democratic governing principles rather than a single tribal culture or religion. Anyone can become an American, both legally and culturally, if they accept the principles embodied in the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence. What you look like or where you are from doesn’t matter. Very few other nations can make the same claim. Foreigners can legally become German or Portuguese or Korean citizens, but becoming an assimilated member of those cultures is difficult. It is hard for a foreign-born not to be seen as different.

Less so in America.

This is Civics 101 folks. This is America’s super power. Immigrants are who we are.

(btr/mf)

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