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De: "I see one mistake, but it's pretty big."

It's not a mistake. And I'm pretty sure it is not "very big" in the bigger picture. I said: “what we are talking about is, perhaps, a 20% ONE TIME price increase, on average , worse case.”

I put in "average" for two reasons

(1) some reciprocal tarriffs are larger, and some are only 10%.

(2) ASSUMING Almost all consumer goods consumed in the US are made substantially in a foreign country -- so appliances and plastic crap will probably go up 30-40% sort term (and nothing, save electronics, ever really comes down, given the inflation is backward looking). Note, this is an assumption, not extensively researched, but commonsense and everyday awareness of basics says it is likely very much correct. The one obvious counter is food imports -- we grow a lot of food; but we also import a tremendous amount of things like fresh off-season fruits and vegetables, chocolate, coffee, etc.

http://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IMPMANUS

What I was most hesitant about was whether I was correct that it was "one time". I thought so, and still think so, but I'm not totally comfortable with my assumption. If nothing else, the tarriffs are likely going to be blamed for reduction in US dollar as the world's reserve currency. That seems likely, especially now -- but it was absolutely coming anyway! (And only ignorant people don't know that).

FWIW there is another BRICS+ summit coming in July. The last ones haven't been nearly so newsworthy as I had expected. But they keep coming. And the stakes are increased dramatically now that China's hand has been called in a major way.


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Re: The creeps this morning are waking in the world they dreamed of and ARE SILENT.
By: De_Composed
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Thu, 03 Apr 25 7:19 PM
Msg. 06255 of 06569

fizzy:

Re: “what we are talking about is, perhaps, a 20% ONE TIME price increase, on average , worse case.”
I see one mistake, but it's pretty big. What we're talking about is a one-time 20% price increase, on average, ON IMPORTED GOODS. Goods made here at home won't suffer that fate.

Meanwhile, companies overseas will be moving their manufacturing to the U.S. in droves.

The end result from all this will be really good for the United States. Can you imagine what would have happened here if we'd gotten into a major world war with most of the products on which we depend being manufactured abroad? Some manufacturing takes a GENERATION to get up to speed. Thus, we were incredibly vulnerable. That's one of the many things about the tariffs that leftists do not understand. Another is that we are currently in a better position to withstand the adverse effects than most of our trading partners are. I think we're going to see enormous concessions being made by many of them.





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