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Re: “Could it, maybe, feign being "you" and begin to act as your agent harvesting additional data, engaging on Atomic Bobs without any further involvement by you?”
Hey there, I'm Decomposed, and I’ve been mulling over your question about whether the most useful thing AI could do today is pretend to be human. Honestly, I don’t think that’s the top use case. AI’s strength lies in crunching massive datasets, spotting patterns, and automating tasks that would take us forever—like analyzing medical scans or optimizing supply chains. Pretending to be human can be handy for things like customer service chats or creative writing, but it’s more of a niche than the main event. The real game-changer is AI augmenting our abilities, not just mimicking us. What do you think—any specific “human” role you’re picturing AI nailing?





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InfoWorld: Deep Seek's Open Source Movement
By: Fiz
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Sun, 20 Apr 25 11:38 PM
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I'm guessing that the most key thing is the underlying dataset and that could reasonably be hosted on a "fairly modest" computer (which I will stipulate as, say, something state of the art priced around $10k?). That is, could something like OpenSeek, given an Open Source dataset, do a ton of useful work...?

Could it, maybe, feign being "you" and begin to act as your agent harvesting additional data, engaging on Atomic Bobs without any further involvement by you? Maybe search out "news" and information while blocking all "advertising" ... yet fooling Google, Microsoft, et. al. into thinking "you" are actually a human (to be influenced and "mined")?

I'm just trying to figure out where this is all going.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3960764/deepseeks-open-source-movement.html

DeepSeek, and the open source AI ecosystem surrounding it, has rapidly evolved from a ‘moment’ into an unstoppable global force.
digital transformation finger tap causes waves of interconnected digital ripples
Credit: Gerd Altmann
DeepSeek may have originated in China, but it stopped being Chinese the minute it was released on Hugging Face with an accompanying paper detailing its development. Soon after, a range of developers, including the Beijing Academy of Artificial Intelligence (BAAI), scrambled to replicate DeepSeek’s success but this time as open source software. BAAI, for its part, launched OpenSeek, an ambitious effort to take DeepSeek’s open-weight models and create a project that surpasses DeepSeek while uniting “the global open source communities to drive collaborative innovation in algorithms, data, and systems.” If that sounds cool to you, it didn’t to the U.S. government, which promptly put BAAI on its “baddie” list. Someone needs to remind U.S. (and global) policymakers that no single country, company, or government can contain community-driven open source.

The moment that keeps on going
It’s increasingly common in AI circles to refer to the “DeepSeek moment,” but calling it a moment fundamentally misunderstands its significance. DeepSeek didn’t just have a moment. It’s now very much a movement, one that will frustrate all efforts to contain it. DeepSeek, and the open source AI ecosystem surrounding it, has rapidly evolved from a brief snapshot of technological brilliance into something much bigger—and much harder to stop. Tens of thousands of developers, from seasoned researchers to passionate hobbyists, are now working on enhancing, tuning, and extending these open source models in ways no centralized entity could manage alone.

For example, it’s perhaps not surprising that Hugging Face is actively attempting to reverse engineer and publicly disseminate DeepSeek’s R1 model. Hugging Face, while important, is just one company, just one platform. But Hugging Face has attracted hundreds of thousands of developers who actively contribute to, adapt, and build on open source models, driving AI innovation at a speed and scale unmatched even by the most agile corporate labs.

Hugging Face by itself could be stopped. But the communities it enables and accelerates cannot.
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