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Re: Forbes: Barack Is Doomed in 2012 

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Well, Clo, I think you can think of one.

Ron Paul not only can tell you EXACTLY why "the Obama economy sags" HE ACTUALLY SAID THE SYSTEM WAS GOING TO BLOW UP, AND WHY, IN 2007 AND 2008 WHILE EVERYONE ELSE -- IN BOTH PARTIES -- WAS CLEARLY OBLIVIOUS. Romney, also, was clearly oblivious ... so much for Romney's grasp of economics.

After the blow up, while Obama was voting for TARP and making back room deals with G.S. et al, Ron Paul made clear that TARP, QE, etc. might give a temporary to the economy but was the wrong thing to do, wouldn't fix anything, and would, in fact, only mask symptoms for a while and then lead to things becoming worse than ever.

Ron Paul even has a solution and, eventually (maybe after the greatest depression in US history has dragged out for some decades) his solution may be tried: End the Fed and dramatically downsize Central Planning. What dumb-clucks are we that we didn't learn anything from the USSR but think that we can do what the USSR did and have things turn out any better?

Anyway, I'm not expecting Ron Paul to get the Republican nomination but I wanted to point out something pretty near everyone knows -- including you and Steve Forbes -- there has been someone all along who understood what was going to happen, why it was going to happen, and why the Central Planning and ZIRP/QE BS wouldn't stick and ... as we have yet to find out but WILL find out ... would only mask a greater depression later on.

THERE IS NO MEANS OF AVOIDING THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF A BOOM BROUGHT ABOUT BY CREDIT EXPANSION. THE ALTERNATIVE IS ONLY WHETHER THE CRISIS SHOULD COME SOONER AS THE RESULT OF A VOLUNTARY ABANDONMENT OF FURTHER CREDIT EXPANSION OR LATER AS A FINAL AND TOTAL CATASTROPHE OF THE CURRENCY SYSTEM INVOLVED.”

Ludwig von Mises – Austrian Economist (1881- 1973)

So we've opted for the road named "later" -- kick the can down the road a little further. Currency collapse is coming and it is going to make the Great Depression seem like a French kiss in comparison.


I have come to realize that men are not born to be free. Liberty is a need felt by a small class of people whom nature has endowed with nobler minds than the mass of men. -Napoleon




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Re: Forbes: Barack Is Doomed in 2012
By: clo
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Tue, 21 Jun 11 11:34 PM
Msg. 33563 of 45510

What’s unknown is if there’s a Republican who truly knows why the Obama economy sags, and who can talk about anything other than tax cuts which, at this point, are not the point. Specifically, is there a Republican who can explain to voters that $100 trips to the gas station are the direct result of the Administration’s currency policies, not to mention that a weak dollar decreases the very investment that drives company formation and job creation.

If such a Republican exists Obama will be a one-term president. If not, the Republicans don’t deserve to retake the White House.

So far they haven't offered one.
They rail about Obama's policies, but don't offer anything other than the republican "tax cut" mantra.
Or they bring personal issues into the mix, abortion, gay rights/marriage.

The interesting "change", NOW, they are opposed to the "wars".

Today Obama announced he'll bring 33,000 troops home this year.

Last night on MSNBC, Lawrence O'Donnell mentioned the importance of Ron Paul in the republican lineup.

Lawrence said, ONLY Ron Paul can make an important impact on gay rights, slowly, but folks who would likely NEVER consider this issue, will listen & may soften their previous stance.
Along with other issues, unfair drug laws, wars, etc, Lawrence hopes he stays in until the end. clo



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