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I've been thinking about this. IMO, this would be a reason to vote for someone else, if the candidate didn't prescribe to this law.

This act, IMO, changes what America stands for & apart from dictatorships.
I am shocked I haven't heard much outrage over this, small pockets, and much of the media has been mute.

I have learned 93 democrats & 43 of republicans in the House voted against this.

Now, I also believe before this would be 'used', the Supreme's would have a chance to squash this.
At this time I don't know how they would come down on it? I would hope Scalia would oppose it, I wonder about Alito & Thomas & Roberts?

Even if President Obama couldn’t listen to the words of caution coming from the likes of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and FBI chief Robert Mueller, 136 members of the House of Representatives registered their disapproval of the bill in its final go-round, and 13 senators joined them. Six Republican senators dissented, including Rand Paul and Jim DeMint, and an equal number of Democrats, including Al Franken and Dick Durbin, along with Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders. As for the House, the breakdown was 93 Democrats and 43 Republicans. Good to know they were pushing back against this alarming, and ultimately successful, assault on Americans’ most sacred rights, even when the president failed to do his part. —KA

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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/truthdiggers_of_the_week_ndaa_dissenters_in_congress_20111216/




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Obama to sign indefinite detention bill into law
By: Decomposed
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Fri, 16 Dec 11 4:41 AM
Msg. 36948 of 65535

In one of the least surprising developments imaginable, President Obama – after spending months threatening to veto the Levin/McCain detention bill – yesterday announced that he would instead sign it into law (this is the same individual, of course, who unequivocally vowed when seeking the Democratic nomination to support a filibuster of “any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecom[s],” only to turn around – once he had the nomination secure — and not only vote against such a filibuster, but to vote in favor of the underlying bill itself, so this is perfectly consistent with his past conduct). As a result, the final version of the Levin/McCain bill will be enshrined as law this week as part of the the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). I wrote about the primary provisions and implications of this bill last week, and won’t repeat those points here.

The ACLU said last night that the bill contains “harmful provisions that some legislators have said could authorize the U.S. military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians, including American citizens, anywhere in the world” and added: “if President Obama signs this bill, it will damage his legacy.” Human Rights Watch said that Obama’s decision “does enormous damage to the rule of law both in the US and abroad” and that “President Obama will go down in history as the president who enshrined indefinite detention without trial in US law.”

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/15/obama_to_sign_indefinite_detention_bill_into_law/singleton/


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