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Re: Autopsy of Trayvon Martin reportedly shows fatal bullet fired from 'intermediate range'

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Re: It's possible that the bullet was hollow point - in which case I'm not sure that the bullet's trajectory can be determined. It might have fragmented on impact. Do you know, Riana?

First off, odds are reasonable that Zimmerman's gun was loaded with hollow points. Hollow point ammunition is less likely to over-penetrate, because it does mushroom on impact, thus slowing its travel significantly, and reducing risk to bystanders. However, at that kind of distance (less than 2 feet), I'm not sure the mushroom effect would have slowed the bullet much.

I assume there is both an entry and exit wound? If so, they should be able to determine trajectory without a lot of trouble. One thing about that distance - because of the rate of speed, bone is more likely to shatter than to alter the trajectory much.




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Autopsy of Trayvon Martin reportedly shows fatal bullet fired from 'intermediate range' ***EDITED TO FIX AN ERROR IN THE NAMES***
By: Decomposed
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Thu, 17 May 12 11:17 PM
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I'm posting the following article because it answers something I spent some time yesterday researching without success. Namely, it tells us what 'intermediate range' probably means.

When I first read that term in yesterday's report, my thought was that it could mean that there was considerable distance between George and his attacker. In other words, 'intermediate range' might mean that the fight was ended, and that George's claim that he was defending himself could be questioned.

This article suggests otherwise. 'Intermediate range' apparently means "one to 18 inches away."

That's in keeping with what I always considered the most likely scenario: 

Martin punched George, knocking him down. He leaped on top, grabbed George's head and bashed it repeatedly into the sidewalk. Zimmerman yelled for help, and the girl who witnessed this ran inside to try to get some. Zimmerman squirmed, tried to buck Martin off, and pushed himself back into the grass, as Martin continued to punch and pound him. In the course of this, he managed to get his gun out, and quickly fired it UPWARD, INTO THE YOUNG THUG'S CHEST, KILLING HIM INSTANTLY. 

Yesterday's news created a real problem with that scenario. If 'intermediate range' means, say, five feet, then how did George ever get that kind of distance between himself and Martin? I thought that PERHAPS the fight was over, Martin was retreating, and George was apparently *NOT* fighting for his life any longer.

But the article below eliminates that concern. One to eighteen inches means that the two men were still right there in each other's faces. The fight was undoubtedly still underway. And George hadn't yet struck Martin even once.

A moment later, that changed . . . quite decisively.

Now, if this *IS* what happened, there's an excellent likelihood that we're going to learn something else from the medical report in the near future. The trajectory of a bullet fired from such an angle, one man on his back, the other straddling him, would NOT have been level. It would be rising.

So, let's just wait and see if I'm right. If the bullet was rising, it almost certainly means that Zimmerman fired while he was still down, shooting an attacker who was, indeed, in the process of trying to kill him.

Oh, okay. I threw that last part in for the drama. We'll never know whether Martin would have killed George if he'd gotten the chance. A rising bullet would tell us with pretty good certainty whether George was still under attack and had reason to believe his life was in danger when he decided to kill the 6+ foot athlete who was beating the tar out of him.

It's possible that the bullet was hollow point - in which case I'm not sure that the bullet's trajectory can be determined. It might have fragmented on impact. Do you know, Riana?

The article does one more thing, by the way. This is the first time I've read that, per George, Martin was still straddling him when the gun was fired. Until now, I've had to speculate on that.

And, wow. You guys were *SO* wrong about this entire thing. Your judgement is truly horrific.
 

Autopsy of Trayvon Martin reportedly shows fatal bullet fired from 'intermediate range'

Published May 17, 2012

FoxNews.com

A leaked autopsy reportedly shows that the bullet that killed Florida teen Trayvon Martin was fired from "intermediate range," which one forensics expert said means anywhere from one to 18 inches away.

The autopsy, conducted by the medical examiner in Volusia County, Fla., also showed that 17-year-old Martin had one small abrasion on his left ring finger below the knuckle, according to the news report. The report could back the account of George Zimmerman, the 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain accused of killing Martin, who has said he fired into Martin's chest in self-defense as the youth was straddling and pummeling him.


More: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/autopsy-reportedly-shows-trayvon-martin-died-from-single-gunshot-wound-fired-at/


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