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re: "Do you think that America would design a program to cause harm and then unleash it on America? After Flame was discovered, it was found operating in Israel as well as other countries. Would you consider that proof that Israel did it? How many folks do you know that go around shooting themselves in the foot for the fun of it."

DGpeddler,

One of Stuxnet's many innovative features was a limit on its hop count. From its point of introduction, just three (if I remember correctly) iterations were permitted. That was pretty smart of the designers, since it kept the program localized and greatly reduced the chances of it being isolated and sent to Semantic for analysis (although it eventually was.)

So, would America design a program to cause harm and then unleash it on America? I'll answer with an even MORE bizarre question.

Would a nation's leader intentionally slaughter his own people?

Sure. If the conditions were right. It's happened many times. China, Russia, Iraq. But not HERE, right? Actually, what was the Civil War if not a national leader slaughtering his own people?

Releasing a virus within one's own country is a little thing by comparison, especially when it can be taylored to not get totally out of hand.

I used to trust my government but, then, I was a very naive young man. It came to me one day that government is run by people, and it has no morality one way or the other of its own. Whatever those people are, good, bad, indifferent or incompetent, is invariably manifested in government, amplified by the extent of their authority.

I never put anything past any government. Mao thought war would be a good thing. "It might help lower the population." Worth remembering.




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Re: Duh?
By: DGpeddler
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Tue, 12 Jun 12 10:52 PM
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Decomposed, when Flame first hit the news it was said that it had attacked several countries in the Middle East, including Isreal. KTC was blaming it on Israel and I pointed out to him that Israel was on the list. KTC HATES Jews with a passion and tries to blame Israel for anything he sees as bad. Most of his arguments are based on his personal feelings and have nothing to do with facts. This conversation started off about Stuxnet and KTC, as usual, posted that I had said stuff I had not said. My post was about Flame, not Stuxnet. While the U.S. has been blamed for Stuxnet, Flame has not been blamed on anyone. It seems that the two have simular parts in their programs, their creators have not actually been identified and they may or may not have come from the same source. One of the few connections between the two is that they both use an error in Windows programing. I just said "Windows did it" because there is as much 'proof' they did it as there is 'proof' Israel did it. Let me ask you one question that backs up my thinking. Do you think that America would design a program to cause harm and then unleash it on America? After Flame was discovered, it was found operating in Israel as well as other countries. Would you consider that proof that Israel did it? How many folks do you know that go around shooting themselves in the foot for the fun of it.


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