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POST OF THE MONTH AWARD: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over

By: monkeytrots in RANT II | Recommend this post (0)
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Exellent post, Kathy.

The guy is correct, folks. No, he is not some spineless 'liberal' in conservative clothing. He has paid his dues in fighting the government.

Micro, the US Military may or may NOT withhold fire on US Citizens in revolt. History shows us that they did NOT withhold fire - in this nation's worst nightmare of bloodletting that pitted two sides of this country against each other. Mr. Karger's use of the term 'against a platoon of Marines', however, is unfortunate because it shifts attention from the ACTUAL AND ESTABLISHED real danger to US Citizens - a danger that he described quite accurately.

The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.

Perhaps the allusion to a 'platoon of Marines' is not as far-fetched as it seems. There have been some incredible and horrible changes to the US Military in the past two years - and Mr. Karger is absolutely correct about the preparations WITHIN THE MILITARY against 'rebellious US Citizens'.

Be VERY AWARE that George W. Bush SUSPENDED AND ELIMINATED the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 via executive order.

Yes - Mr. Karger nails it. The PRICE WILL BE EXTREMELY HIGH for defiance.

Are we prepared to pay the piper - in possibly futile actions ?

Correction - Make that 'almost certainly futile'.


Before you answer - Have you ever had 'law enforcement' in YOUR front yard - pulling their weapons on you - when you are unarmed, peaceable, and simply refusing to kowtow to some asshole ? If not - try thinking about that - because it is happening more and more.

Read the series on Constitutional Corner about Brandon Raub - and Due's excellent followup on that very REAL abrogation of ALL civil rights of a 'peaceful' citizen.




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When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
By: kathy_s16
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Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:58 PM
Msg. 20718 of 20747

“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”

This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.

Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.

If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so- subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.

The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.

And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.

Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.

According to Public Intelligence:


“...for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”

And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.

And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.

That is your choice... for the moment.

Regards,

Jim Karger

Jim Karger is a lawyer who has represented American businesses against incursions by government and labor unions for 30 years. In 2001, he left Dallas and moved to San Miguel de Allende in the high desert of central Mexico where he sought and found a freer and simpler life for he and his wife, Kelly, and their 10 dogs. Karger’s website is http://www.crediblyconnect.com

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