I found a web site, trying to tout the virtues of socialism in a debate type format . . .
http://www.debate.org/opinions/has-socialism-ever-worked
So I copird out a few and added some rebuttals.
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· Socialism isn't Communism
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While I'll agree it takes a lot of effort to make it work, and that there are pluses and minuses to both Socialism and Capitalism, there are plenty of examples of successful Socialism.....So long as people allow it to work. The problem lies in the fact that so many times people have (successfully) corrupted it and turned it into something that Socialism isn't and given it a bad name (USSR, East Germany, Vietnam, etc.) But if you look at the following modern day countries, these are all perfect examples of differing extents of success: China, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand, Belgium.
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Rebuttal : All of those countries economies are
. . . .run by Capitalists. China embraced
. . . .Capitalism, and their economy has prospered
. . . .Ever since.
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· It must because Capitalism does not work and there is no other viable option.
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When an economy is based on the idea of incentive or profit, eventually that economy's middle class will become ruined due to employers lowering wages or, as we see here in this country today, the production, formally conducted by that same middle class, being sought from by outside sources. After a period of time, those middle class consumers that at one time purchased those products, can no longer afford to purchase them. There are a million fish in the ocean, true, but only a million. The end result will always be unequallity and thus stagnation
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Rebuttal : This one lives in a fantasy world.
. . . .China went Capitalist because the state
. . . .centrally controlled Economy was not working.
. . . .All those Nordic ‘socialist countries’ have
. . . .capitalists producing the taxable goods and services.
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· Human nature is socialist
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Darwin said much more about how life forms are interdependent and cooperative in their drive to progress other than the survival of the the fittest. Let us not judge ourselves by simplified instincts given to us by the prevailing capitalist ideology. We can be more than what we are. Or else we just fight for resources. The greatest achievements come from a series of failures. So much work is pointless. We could work less and have more. Together we are stronger than we are alone.
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Rebuttal : Of course humans are social animals.
. . . .The key phrase here is :
------ “We could work less and have more.” ------
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. . . .The only way ‘anybody’ can work less and
. . . .have more, is by stealing
. . . .From those who work harder or smarter . . .
. . . .No human being that I know of Is going to work
. . . .more and harder simply so somebody else can
. . . .work less and have more.
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· China Prospers Under Socialism
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Although not perfect, China's socialism has worked for 60 years. The country is prosperous and growing. There are the human rights violations, rampant pollution, abject corruption and tons of problems with the Chinese system. However, for the time being, socialism has worked in China for decades. Socialism works in Europe as well--even though countries are parliamentary, many institutions are owned by the government.
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Rebuttal : China unleashed the capitalists.
. . . .And then you mentioned Chinese human rights
. . . .violations, rampant pollution,
. . . .Etc. etc. not to mention poisonous consumer goods. . . .
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. . . .And you think that’s a good thing?
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. . . . Zim.
Mad Poet Strikes Again.
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