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...yeah, I know. I was referring to the statement made by the idiot democrat (being redundant there).

The “Good and Welfare” Clause, by John Conyers

House Judiciary Committee Chairman, John Conyers (D-MI), defends Obamacare’s constitutionality with the “good and welfare” clause. You know… THAT clause…

http://www.redstate.com/diary/hogan/2010/03/24/the-good-and-welfare-clause-by-john-conyers/

...he's an idiot right up there with the democrat who was worried about Puerto Rico having so many immigrants that it turned over.




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Re: 12 Days Ago Susan Rice Knew Nothing of Trump Unmasking, Turns Out She Requested It
By: Beldin
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Tue, 04 Apr 17 11:31 PM
Msg. 23873 of 47202

There is no "general welfare clause" in the U.S. Constitution, ribit.

A general welfare clause is a section that appeared in many constitutions, as well as in some charters and statutes, which provides that the governing body empowered by the document may enact laws to promote the general welfare of the people, sometimes worded as the public welfare.

That has appeared in many constitutions ... yes, in constitutions of other countries, but not in ours.

The United States Constitution contains two references to "the General Welfare", one occurring in the Preamble and the other in the Taxing and Spending Clause. The U.S. Supreme Court has held the mention of the clause in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution "has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government of the United States or on any of its Departments."

The Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States. Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power, but a qualification on the taxing power which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government. The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position," as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures. Story, however, attributes the position's initial appearance to Thomas Jefferson, in his Opinion on the Bank of the United States.

These clauses in the U.S. Constitution are an atypical use of a general welfare clause, and are not considered grants of a general legislative power to the federal government.


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