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Zim >> I don't even know where to begin with this . . .

Well, you could start by digging a little deeper, Zim


- and not trusting what Iran publicly says and what the Faux News Services are publishing. A little review of history might also help you.

When it comes to the Mid-East - little is as it seems on the surface - it is a gordian knot of lies and deceit. Iran has LONG supported Al-Queda and continues to support them to this day - despite the 'surface' appearance to the casual peruser that 'IRAN is fighting ISIS'. Well - yes and no. Yes they are fighting them - they are also supporting ISIS (aka Al Queda). Those are facts that you are obviously not comfortable with; but facts none the less.

Three Links:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/23/trust-iran-only-as-far-as-you-can-throw-it/

http://www.weeklystandard.com/state-department-iran-supports-al-qaeda-taliban/article/649167

http://www.weeklystandard.com/state-department-iran-supports-al-qaeda-taliban/article/649167

But of course the US LEGAL system can't find it's ass with two hands, ditto for the State Department, ditto for a senior advisor to the US CENTRAL COMMAND, and who needs say anymore than 'wikipedia' being a leftist cesspool. And ditto for the UN Commission that investigated the 2013 Syrian chemical attacks - and when one reads it, it is obvious that ISIS used SARIN several times against Assad's troops - but even a UN REPORT is worthless, eh, Zim ?

From Central Command advisor Col. Derek Harvey - a retired US ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER:

Trust Iran Only as Far as You Can Throw It

American talking heads say that Iran is the key to defeating ISIS. But those in the know say the two "enemies" are actually secret allies.

"There has never been any doubt in my mind that elements within Iran’s security services have facilitated ISIS," Col. Derek Harvey told Foreign Policy, referring to the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, a terrorist network-cum-jihadist army that has now taken over territory in Syria and Iraq that, when combined, is roughly the size of Jordan. "When given opportunities to interdict, or have an effect, [the Iranians] have refrained."

Harvey, a retired Army intelligence officer and senior Central Command advisor, was emphatic that any solution for containing the rising threat of ISIS, an al Qaeda breakaway group, must foreclose on the possibility of U.S.-Iranian collusion. His comments were echoed by two other high-ranking U.S. military officials who served extensively in the Iraq theater in the last decade and believe that Iran was the principal spoiler for American-led reconstruction efforts after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

These reminders from Iraq war veterans come at a time when debate rages in the U.S. policy establishment and commentariat over whether or not the Obama administration should adopt an "enemy of my enemy" logic in Iraq and work with Washington’s 30-year foe in Tehran.

Secretary of State John Kerry floated this idea in an interview on June 16 with Katie Couric, saying, "We’re open to discussions if there is something constructive that can be contributed by Iran, if Iran is prepared to do something that is going to respect the integrity and sovereignty of Iraq and ability of the government to reform."

====================== From the State Department report of 2012:
State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban

5:20 PM, Jul 31, 2012 | By Thomas Joscelyn

During a briefing with the press, Ambassador Daniel Benjamin, the State Department’s coordinator for counterterrorism, was asked what the U.S. government is doing to counteract Iran’s sponsorship of terrorism. Benjamin said that the Obama administration is “deeply concerned about Iran’s activities on its own through the” Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps – Qods Force (IRGC-QF), which is the Iranian regime’s principal terrorist-supporting arm. Benjamin also highlighted the work Iran does “together with Hezbollah” to “pursue destabilizing activities around the globe.” Iran does not only work with Hezbollah terrorists, however.

“I think that it’s important to note that we’ve seen quite a number of different designations in the last year,” Benjamin explained. “We have seen a number of al Qaeda activists in Iran who have been designated.”

The State Department released its annual Country Reports on Terrorism on Tuesday. Once again, the U.S. government has deemed Iran the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism. The Iranian regime’s sponsorship of terrorism includes troubling relationships with al Qaeda (“AQ”) and the Taliban.

“In 2011,” the State Department’s report reads, “Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior AQ members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody.” Similar language was included in previous State Department reports. But that is not all there is to the Iran-AQ relationship.

Iran “also allowed AQ members to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iranian territory, enabling AQ to carry funds and move facilitators and operatives to South Asia and elsewhere.”

During a briefing with the press, Ambassador Daniel Benjamin, the State Department’s coordinator for counterterrorism, was asked what the U.S. government is doing to counteract Iran’s sponsorship of terrorism. Benjamin said that the Obama administration is “deeply concerned about Iran’s activities on its own through the” Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps – Qods Force (IRGC-QF), which is the Iranian regime’s principal terrorist-supporting arm. Benjamin also highlighted the work Iran does “together with Hezbollah” to “pursue destabilizing activities around the globe.” Iran does not only work with Hezbollah terrorists, however.

“I think that it’s important to note that we’ve seen quite a number of different designations in the last year,” Benjamin explained. “We have seen a number of al Qaeda activists in Iran who have been designated.”

Benjamin was referring to the Treasury Department’s July 2011 designation of a terrorist network headed by an al Qaeda operative known as Yassin al Suri. That network operates “under an agreement between al Qaeda and the Iranian government," according to Treasury. In December 2011, the Treasury and State Departments announced a $10 million bounty for information leading to al Suri’s capture. That reward is one of the highest offered for any terrorist. Obama administration officials noted at the time that al Suri is “working in support of al Qaeda with the support of the Government of Iran.”

Al Suri’s Iran-based network has been in operation since at least 2005. Seven years later, according to the State Department’s latest report, it is still operational. Al Suri’s network has facilitated the movement of terrorists around the globe, including an al Qaeda cell slated to take part in a foiled 2010 plot to launch Mumbai-style attacks in Europe.

In February of this year, the Treasury Department highlighted the support Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) provides to al Qaeda and its Iraqi affiliate in a separate designation. The “MOIS has facilitated the movement of al Qaeda operatives in Iran and provided them with documents, identification cards, and passports,” according to Treasury. In addition, the MOIS has “provided money and weapons to al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)...and negotiated prisoner releases of AQI operatives.”

The Taliban was once Iran’s foe, but that hasn’t stopped the two from colluding against U.S. forces. As in its reports in previous years, the State Department notes that the IRGC-QF “provided training to the Taliban in Afghanistan on small unit tactics, small arms, explosives, and indirect fire weapons, such as mortars, artillery, and rockets.”

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From Wikipedia - a good summary of IRANIAN support of Al-Queda (the predecessor name of ISIS) is well documented in US LEGAL DOCUMENTS and by US MILITARY EXPERTS.

Alleged Al-Qaeda ties

Allegedly Al Qaeda and Iran formed an alliance during the 1990s in which Hezbollah trained al Qaeda operatives.[53] After the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, Iran evacuated hundreds of al Qaeda personnel from Afghanistan, allowing the formation of an al Qaeda "management council" on Iranian soil. While some al Qaeda operatives were allowed to act freely, others were placed under house arrest.[54][55] Even though Iran has assisted Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in fighting Sunni insurgents during the sectarian Syrian civil war,[56] al Qaeda and Islamic State insurgents are reportedly "under orders not to attack inside Iran in order to preserve their supply network there".[57][58] In 2014, there was speculation that Iran might sever its ties with al Qaeda in return for a deal with the West regarding its nuclear program.[57]

1998 United States embassy bombings

On November 8, 2011, Judge John D. Bates ruled in federal court that Iran was liable for the 1998 United States embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. In his 45-page decision, Judge Bates wrote that "Prior to their meetings with Iranian officials and agents Bin Laden and al Qaeda did not possess the technical expertise required to carry out the embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam."[59]

September 11

The U.S. indictment of bin Laden filed in 1998 stated that al-Qaeda "forged alliances . . . with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies."[53] On May 31, 2001, Steven Emerson and Daniel Pipes wrote in The Wall Street Journal that "Officials of the Iranian government helped arrange advanced weapons and explosives training for Al-Qaeda personnel in Lebanon where they learned, for example, how to destroy large buildings."[60]

The 9/11 Commission Report stated that 8 to 10 of the hijackers on 9/11 previously passed through Iran and their travel was facilitated by Iranian border guards.[53][61] The report also found "circumstantial evidence that senior Hezbollah operatives were closely tracking the travel of some of these future muscle hijackers into Iran in November 2000."[61] After the commission called for "further investigation" into a possible Iranian role in the attacks, President George W. Bush demanded that Iran sever its ties with al-Qaeda, while saying that in his view, "There was no direct connection between Iran and the attacks of September 11."[62]

Judge George B. Daniels ruled in a federal district court in Manhattan that Iran bears legal responsibility for providing "material support" to the 9/11 plotters and hijackers in Havlish, et al. v. Osama bin Laden, Iran, et al.[63][64] Included in Judge Daniels' findings was that Iran "used front companies to obtain a Boeing 757-767-777 flight simulator for training the terrorists", Ramzi bin al-Shibh traveled to Iran in January 2001, and an Iranian government memorandum from May 14, 2001 demonstrates Iranian culpability in planning the attacks.[63] Two defectors from Iran’s intelligence service testified that Iranian officials had "foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks."[65] By contrast, the 9/11 Commission "found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning for what later became the 9/11 attack. At the time of their travel through Iran, the al Qaeda operatives themselves were probably not aware of the specific details of their future operation." In addition, both bin al-Shibh and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed denied "any relationship between the hijackers and Hezbollah" and "any other reason for the hijackers' travel to Iran" besides "taking advantage of the Iranian practice of not stamping Saudi passports."[61]

(All three articles excerpted above have much more to them and are worth reading.)

As I stated, the link of IRAN to ISIS/Al Queda is long and documented - albeit well hidden.




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Re: Iran ISIS- long histoy - they still support and fund them.
By: Zimbler0
in POPE IV
Tue, 25 Apr 17 4:35 AM
Msg. 24582 of 47202

I don't even know where to begin with this . . .

But, ISIL is largely Sunni in nature . . . while Iran is mostly Shia.
(The portion of Iraq where ISIL rolled real good is mostly Sunni.)

Yes, Iran is sponsoring and supporting Hamas . . . Because Hamas
is dedicated to destroying Israel.

Hamas is in 'Palestine' - right next door to Israel. In fact, what
is referred to as 'Palestine' is under Israeli control.

ISIL, on the other hand, is finding their waterloo in Iraq and Syria.
ISIL also tried to establish in Libya, where they are also getting
their tails kicked. Similar story in Afghanistan - where the
wanna-be ISIL fall back positions just got eradicated by that
'Mother of All' American Bombs.

Lastly, it is a FACT that Iran is a BIG sponsor of assads.

>>>
Why Iran Supports the Syrian Regime

https://www.thoughtco.com/why-iran-supports-the-syrian-regime-2353082

Updated November 25, 2014

Iran’s support for the Syrian regime is one of the key elements safeguarding the survival of Syria’s embattled president Bashar al-Assad, who has been fighting a fierce anti-government uprising since Spring 2011.
>>>

(Article does continue. Zim.)


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